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For Whom Should a Christian Vote?

On September 14, 2008, I presented a lesson for the Franklin Church of Christ in Franklin, TN. We asked the question “For Whom Should a Christian Vote?” The answer may surprise you.

If you would like to see the lesson in its original formatting or listen to the audio, then click the link to the website for the congregation below, otherwise you can read it as I’ve pasted it in below.

Franklin Church of Christ

 

Introduction:

I don’t expect a show of hands on this one. I just want you to think. For whom are you planning to vote in the upcoming presidential election? Perhaps it is John McCain as he now leads the Republican party. Or maybe you have become enamored with the stardom of Barak Obama. Then again, maybe you are leaning outside the box and are going to vote for Chuck Baldwin who is this year’s Constitution Party nominee. He is staunchly pro-life, will outlaw embryonic stem cell research, thinks a constitutional amendment should be passed defining marriage as between a man and a woman. Maybe you are leaning to the Libertarian party and plan to vote for Robert Barr, Jr. He will put an end to the war in Iraq and the military efforts in Afghanistan, thinks states should decide regarding the definition of marriage, will put an end to illegal immigration, opposes socialized medicine, wants to remove entitlement programs and will uphold your right to bear arms. Or maybe you lean to the other extreme and want to vote for the Socialist Party nominee, Brian Moore. He will also remove troops from Iraq and Afghanistan and outlaw all weapons of mass destruction, he will provide a National healthcare plan, perhaps most importantly he will legislate a 30 hour work week with six weeks of paid vacation every year and a full pension and guarantee all American families an income of $35,000 per adult per year. Or maybe you remember Alan Keyes who once ran for Republican nomination. He is running for President again, but as the nominee for America’s Independent Party. He will promote an amendment to protect marriage as between a man and woman, he will outlaw abortion, repeal the 16th and 17th amendments which will take away the government’s ability to tax our income. He is in favor of limited government and specifically states his dependence upon God. Or maybe you want to go way out on a limb and vote for veritable unknown 42-year-old Steve Adams of Lexington, KY, running as an independent. He is pro-life. Will push for a marriage amendment and promises in his first 100 days to work on producing a congressional report card to let us know how our Senators and Representatives are voting. He will balance the budget, secure Social Security, bring troops home, secure the border and reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Or maybe you are leaning to one of the other 350 some odd candidates who have announced their intent to run. Wow! According to Project Vote Smart at votesmart.org, more than 350 people have announced their intent to run for President and even more are thinking about it. Interestingly, this doesn’t even include Christian and gospel preacher Shane Scott who has publicly announced his bid for the presidency on YouTube at ShaneforAmerica (Yes, he is just joking…I think).

With all these candidates and almost all of them vying for the vote of Christians, what are we to do? Is there a candidate we should support because we are Christians? Or maybe we should back up and take a look at this whole election thing in a different light.

 

Discussion:

I.      First, can a Christian vote?

A.    I do not believe a Christian has to vote. There is no command in Scripture for a Christian to be at all interested in politics or government. I find it interesting despite the New Testament’s complete silence about voting that some Christians who have never talked to another person about the gospel, almost never visit their sick brethren, rarely invite anyone into their home will become sanctimonious in an election year and talk about the Christian’s responsibility to vote. And then even further about the Christian’s responsibility to vote for their favorite candidate. Perhaps we are missing some of the Scripture’s actual priorities for us.

B.    Romans 13:1 and I Peter 2:13-14 teaches that God establishes the governing authorities; we do not. I recognize some brethren believe this means they shouldn’t vote because that would mean they are trying to establish government instead of letting God do so. Others simply think this means voting is pointless because God will establish the government He wants for whatever purpose He wants it to accomplish, therefore our own vote doesn’t really count. I respect that position, and as I said, I don’t think anyone has to vote.

C.    However, I think we need to remember God works through us. Consider the salvation of souls. We know for certain that God does the saving. That is God’s work. He saves souls. But consider I Corinthians 3:5. God did the saving, but He worked through men by giving them the opportunity to teach. Consider also the great Old Testament example of Esther. No doubt, the point of Esther is that God saved the Jews. However, Esther was not to sit tight and simply say God would take care of it. Rather, Mordecai said, “Who knows whether you have not come to the kingdom for such a time as this” (Esther 4:14, ESV). When it was done, God would be praised for this deliverance. If Esther did nothing, God would still accomplish His will. However, the fact that God was the deliverer did not mean God’s child must refuse to act or that her action was pointless. Therefore, the claim that God is doing something, does not mean men must stay uninvolved. The fact is, in a democracy, God establishes the government, but He does so through the votes of people. Who knows whether you have not come to the United States for such a time as this that God through your vote might install your candidate as president. Maybe not, but who knows?

II.     What is God’s position?

A.    Having established that you are allowed to vote if you so choose, I want to move on to consider this idea that there is some candidate out there that is God’s candidate. I am amazed at the number of people who claim to be Christians who vote all over the political spectrum, but they all act as if all Christian’s must vote exactly like them. Really? Do we really know God’s position on all the issues that play a part in the President’s role?

B.    Consider the following issues and give me book, chapter and verse on God’s position.

 

  1. State’s rights versus federalism?
  2. Education?
  3. Socialized medicine?
  4. Immigration?
  5. Healthcare?
  6. NAFTA?
  7. Taxes?
  8. The Patriot Act?
  9. Social Security?
  10. Personal Privacy vs. Government surveillance to protect national security?
  11. The right to own a gun?
  12. Capitalism versus Socialism?
  13. Democracy versus Imperialism?
  14. Confederacy versus Union?
  15. Foreign policy?
  16. Energy policy?
  17. The environment?
  18. The line item veto?
  19. Defense spending?
  20. The trade embargo of Cuba?

C.    Brothers and sisters, if our choice for the next president is so important to God that we as Christians should vote for a particular person because God wants us to, why hasn’t He filled us in on His position on all these presidential issues?

III.   But my issues matter to God?

A.    No doubt, most Christians will point out they vote based on values and moral issues about which God has expressed opinions. Interestingly, they can’t seem to agree on which issues are the ones upon which God really and truly wants to base our vote. If we take the two major parties, Republican Christians (and for all you Democrats out there, Christians really can be Republicans) say we need to vote based on the candidates’ positions on abortion and homosexuality. No doubt, God considers harming the unborn child the same as harming anyone else. See the Old Testament law in Exodus 21:22-25. Obviously, God is opposed to the practice of homosexuality. Romans 1:26-29 clearly states that homosexual practice is against nature and against God’s law. On the other hand, Democrat Christians (and for all you Republicans out there, Christians really can be Democrats) say we should focus on what the candidates view is on caring for the poor. No doubt, taking care of the poor is very important to God. Jesus said Christians should sell their goods and give to the poor in Luke 12:33. When Paul received the right hand of fellowship from James, Cephas and John to go work among the Gentiles, their one statement was, “Remember the poor” (Galatians 2:10). You will recognize that when God established His own nation, He actually levied a 10% tax on all the Israelites in order to support not only the Levites, but for the widows, fatherless and sojourners (Deuteronomy 14:29). Have you ever read God’s policy through Nehemiah when many in that kingdom had gotten overstretched with bad debt? In Nehemiah 5:9-13, Nehemiah, the governor of Judah, commanded the Jews to forgive the debts and give back the mortgaged property and stop charging interest when folks borrowed. The people responded that they would require nothing of the folks who had borrowed. God is absolutely concerned about the care for the poor and has even favored government and legal involvement in making sure the poor were cared for. So, which of those issues is God really more concerned about? Which should win out?

B.    Further, does voting for a Presidential candidate actually mean God’s will is going to be done about anything? Let’s take one of the most often cited issues among Christians—abortion. I will admit that it is an issue upon which my vote has been based almost consistently. For six years we had a Republican president and a Republican congress, many of whom were elected because they garnered the pro-life votes of many Christians and abortion is still legal. Yet, here they are again claiming they should get the Christian vote because they are pro-life. Does our vote actually translate into God’s will being done? Apparently not.

C.    Further, which of the candidates is really for God’s will being done. Can anyone let me know which of the candidates is the prohibition candidate (cf. Proverbs 31:4)? At one time, some Christians would have argued tooth and toenail that a Christian could only vote for a guy if he was really opposed to alcohol. Somewhere along the line we gave that one up. Did we cease to be God-fearing Christians because we quit voting based on that issue? Which of the candidates wants to make sexual immorality illegal (cf. Hebrews 13:4)? Which one wants to make divorce unlawful except in cases of sexual immorality (cf. Matthew 19:3-5)? Which one wants to enforce baptism for the remission of sins (cf. Acts 2:38)? Which one wants to point out that churches are only authorized by God to provide benevolent aid to Christians and then only when their families can’t or won’t help (cf. Acts 4:32-37; I Timothy 5:16)? I guess I’m just unsure how we can pick one or two biblical issues, ignore the rest and then act like we are voting for God’s candidate.

D.    Finally, do you remember what Jesus came in the world to do? Jesus came into the world to establish His heavenly kingdom (Matthew 16:18-19; Mark 9:1). He did not come to establish policy for earthly kingdoms. He did not direct Christians to change their earthly kingdoms, but to spread the heavenly kingdom one person at a time by teaching. According to Luke 19:10, Jesus came to seek and to save those who are lost. That is the job we are to carry on. To all Republicans, how many people have ever been saved by the gospel of Jesus because you voted for Ronald Reagan, George Bush or even John McCain? To all Democrats, how many people have ever been saved by the gospel of Jesus because you voted for Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton or Barak Obama. For all you independents or third party endorsers, how many people have ever been saved because you voted for Ross Perot, Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin? If people could be saved by the gospel based on the politicians for whom we vote, then I’m sure God would have told us for whom to vote. But God is not concerned about national policy. He is concerned about His saints getting the gospel out to one more person.

IV.   Has God asked us to spread His will through political means?

A.    I think the heart of the matter comes down to this question. So many Christians act like voting a certain way is our Christian duty because God has called us to make our national laws correspond with the Bible. Brothers and Sisters, that just isn’t true. Interestingly enough, God never once told the first century Christians to do anything about national policies and laws. In fact, the only governmental policy God remotely suggested the Christians do anything about is found in I Timothy 2:1-2. The only policy God encourages us to be really concerned about is whether or not the government allows us to serve God peacefully. And then, the action He encouraged us to take was to pray.

B.    Further, think back to when the New Testament was written. Under what kind of government did the Christians live? The Romans had ended the Republic some time before the birth of Jesus even though they tried to maintain vestiges of it for a time. They were under an emperor. I can’t help but notice that God did not encourage His children to do anything political to spread His will. In fact, II Corinthians 10:3-7 stands out to me. This is more than just saying we don’t stick a gun to someone’s head and force them to be baptized. The point behind this is our kingdom is not a material one, therefore we don’t use political machinations to force someone to obey God at all. Instead, we persuade people with reason from the Word. If that impacts the laws of our nation, then so be it. The fact is, however, God never once asked His people to do anything political about the laws of the land. He simply commanded that we pray for those who rule over us (I Timothy 2:1-2). And then He commanded us to submit to them, whoever they ended up being (Romans 13:1) unless they ask us to disobey God (Acts 5:29). Finally, He commanded us to honor the governing authority (I Peter 2:17). Allow me to remind you this was written when the governing authorities were anything but God-fearing.

C.    Consider also Jesus’ statement in John 18:36. Jesus’ kingdom is not of this world. Why on earth do we keep trying to make America Jesus’ nation by acting like there is a candidate for whom all Christians have to vote because he/she will help the United States be a Christian nation. God did not do away with His chosen national kingdom merely to get us to try to set up another one. Brothers and sisters, Jesus did not die to make America a Christian nation. He died so Americans could become Christians (along with members of every other nation). Our job, therefore is not to make American a Christian nation, but to take the gospel to our neighbors so they can be saved. Which do you think God cares about more, what our law codes say or what our people do?

D.    When Paul had the opportunity to speak to policy makers, was his goal to get them to pass God’s laws? No. His goal was to teach them the gospel. See him before Felix in Acts 24, before Festus in Acts 25, before Agrippa in Acts 26. He didn’t petition them to establish biblically based laws, he tried to teach them the gospel. No doubt, if these men became Christians, their policies and laws might change. But Paul’s point was not to change national policy, Paul’s goal was to save individual souls.

E.    Finally, do we think abortion, homosexuality, poverty and all the other issues we bicker over politically were any less part of the Roman culture? Homosexuality was such a part of the culture Paul had to write against it specifically in passages like Romans 1:26-27. There were poor people all over the Roman Empire and it was even worse then because socio-economic class was often established at birth and could hardly be changed. Abortion and infanticide were practiced among the Romans. Where are the passages that show the Christians what to do about these political atrocities that kept Rome from being a Christian Empire? They just aren’t there. Instead we have passages like I Corinthians 6:9-11. What was God’s answer to these moral ills? Not changing national laws and policies but teaching individuals the gospel so they can be saved and then redeemed from their immorality.

V.    Let’s get back to just spreading the gospel.

A.    I think it is sad that all the politicians play the religious card. They all want us to know how Christian they are as if that gives them God’s endorsement. What is worse, however, is that we Christians sometimes get caught up in it and act like our vote has to line up with some kind of teaching from God so we can further His plans. That just isn’t in the Bible.

B.    I know it is hardly “religiously correct” to say this. I know I am probably upsetting almost everyone who hears this sermon because we so want to prove that everyone has to vote like us to serve God properly. But that just isn’t in the Word of God. The fact is, I don’t think we can make one single claim from the Bible that suggests God really cares how we vote. Our job in serving Him is not about our nation’s laws and policies. Our job is to get the gospel out. If you really want to further God’s will regarding caring for the poor, get out and help someone who is poor. If you really want to further God’s will regarding abortion, teach people the gospel truth about sexual responsibility and then help support them as they choose to keep a baby if they have made a mistake. If you really want to further God’s will regarding homosexuality, show love and concern for someone who struggles with that sin as you help the overcome by the grace of God. What good will it do if we change national policy by our votes but never convince anyone to love God enough to obey His will on these issues.

C.    To be honest, I think one of the reasons we get so up in arms about voting is because voting is so easy. We go into a booth and push some buttons where no one can see us and try to elect officials to pass laws to force people to obey God. Then we pat ourselves on the back for doing our part in God’s fight against immorality. We haven’t done anything in God’s fight against immorality when we vote. We haven’t done anything in God’s fight against immorality until we start talking to the immoral about the freedom from sin they can have in Christ Jesus.

Conclusion:

Brothers and Sisters, I don’t know that God cares whether or not we are a Republic, a Democracy, a Monarchy or a Dictatorship. However, I must admit that my own personal view of politics is that the ability to elect representatives is the best form of government. That, however, is a political and social view, not a spiritual or biblical one. I view the ability to vote for representatives who think like me is one of the greatest privileges we have in our country and I take it seriously. Frankly, I believe we are allowed to favor a candidate for any reason or reasons we think are most important to help protect and preserve our country. With that, I recognize that because of experience and situation, each of us may see different issues as the most pressing ones in our nation. The fact that you don’t see the same issues as pressing as I do, doesn’t mean you are less of a Christian than I am and vice versa. So then, for whom should the Christian vote for president or in any other election for that matter? The Christian should vote for the candidate he/she thinks will most represent their opinions if elected based on whatever issues he/she decides are most pressing.

Before I end this lesson, I have no doubt someone who is not exactly happy with this sermon is going to come up when I’m through and try to get me to somehow sideways admit their candidate is the right one by saying, “I appreciate all you said, but don’t you think Christians should take their Bibles with them into the voting booth?” Of course I do, I think Christians should take their Bibles with them everywhere. I think Christians should let God’s moral law impact every decision they make. I just have recognized there are more biblical issues at play than the one upon which you or I have hung our electoral hats. Further, when you leave the voting booth, don’t think you have done God’s will about whatever issue caused you to vote the way you did, because God has never told you how to vote. He has told you how to live, how to teach and how to bring others to salvation through His Son. So, between now and November 4, if you want to really do something for God’s kingdom and even for our nation, quit trying to convince others to vote like you and start sharing the gospel message of salvation with them.  

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17 Comments »

  1. Edwin, this is very powerful. Thanks for sharing it on here with us. I especially like how you say “Our job, therefore is not to make American a Christian nation, but to take the gospel to our neighbors so they can be saved. Which do you think God cares about more, what our law codes say or what our people do?”

    We should be following God and the Great Commission independent of the political winds. People living Christian lives and reflecting Christ will be what makes America a “Christian nation.” Not an election or new set of laws.

    Thanks again for the message.

    Comment by Bubba | September 22, 2008

  2. Your welcome Bubba and thank you for your encouragement.

    Comment by edwincrozier | September 22, 2008

  3. Amen. Especially to III C. We so often want to pick and choose which moral issues are politically important (just like we want to pick and choose which of God’s commands are the “important” ones).

    The difference is that God’s commands don’t disagree with each other. We can agree with all of them without fear of contradiction. Not so in politics. Even a candidate with whom I agree on 100 issues will have a few ideas I cannot support.

    Thanks 🙂

    Comment by Adam L | September 22, 2008

  4. Thanks Adam.

    Comment by edwincrozier | September 22, 2008

  5. Are Obama/McCain true Christians?
    Do they really believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ? Can Obama/McCain pass the Jesus Test?

    Take the Jesus Test to find out if you are a true Christian at http://www.sentforlife.com/jesus.html

    Comment by Dave | September 24, 2008

  6. Well, Dave, I’m not sure your interpretation of the passages you used in your test is exactly the meaning Christ was giving them. After all “poor in spirit” has nothing to do with material poverty, etc.

    Interestingly, your test demonstrates just how easily the religious today try to interpret the Bible in a way that claims their candidate should be elected and the other candidates are the anti-Christ.

    It just gets me back to my point in the lesson. Jesus never asked us to do anything politically about His will. He asked us to obey it and take it to others through teaching. Perhaps we should quit worrying about which candidate is the Christian one and start living like Jesus.

    Edwin

    Comment by edwincrozier | September 24, 2008

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  8. Edwin, Thank you for responding to my posting your Sermon.
    I am humbled and honored. I researched the Internet for what I considered the most scriptually correct thoughts on “for whom shall a christian vote” Yours seemed to touch more on the message of salvation being important in the way we approach others in this discussion. In the forum where I posted your God Inspired words it was my hope and intention to attempt to stop the onslaught of anger and pure hatred for those of us that are undecided or leaning towards or voting for Obama. We face repeated attacks and we are told to stop sharing our love for the Lord or our desire to see others saved or how dare we say we are Christians or quote scripture if we vote for our Muslim Messiah. They call us murderers and tell us to leave this country because we hate it. Every political discouse or debate we enter in to about issues they interupt with these hate filled comments belittling us with the most unimaginable words.
    The two men responsible for this behavior are ordained Pentecostal Preachers. Although when I am able ( I have been battling Cancer and Depression for the past year)I attend Assemblies of God and visit my friends Baptist Church. I spent from 1979 to 1993 in the Pentecostal Church. I am familar with Fire and Brimstone preaching aimed at the sinner but their comments are aimed at any one claiming to be a Christian.
    This is the reason I felt it important to share your words.
    Many of the unsaved on this site say if all they knew about God was what these men state they would never want to believe in their God.
    Edwin, I am a simple woman, farm raised and born in 1947. I have no understanding for what feeds the fire of cruelty in these individuals that are pastors? They are doing their upmost to brainwash us in to believing we are going to hell if we don’t vote for McCain. This is why I felt so much comfort in your words. Thank you and know that your words have been an inspiration to me and to the many who have already, and will read them in my forum.

    Comment by Linda Mae | September 28, 2008

  9. Edwin, As a bible believing Christian I need your honest opinion according to Scripture “Am I going to Hell if I vote for Obama?” ” Are All Christians who vote for Obama going to Hell” These attacks are crushing my spirit. Please Help put God’s Word in Perspective. How would God want me to handle this confrontation. Am I truely WRONG for caring about war, the poor and the economy and issues apart from Only Abortion? I have read your Sermon several times. Today the attackers say you are a Backsliden preacher to say what you say. I find spritual comfort in your words and they find more hatred. Please Help!

    Comment by Linda Mae | September 29, 2008

  10. Linda,

    Thank you for considering my sermon and I’m glad you have found comfort within it.

    First, let me say that your salvation is not dependent on what preachers say. Neither is mine. I don’t preach what I do to be popular with all the other preachers out there. I preach what I find in God’s Word.

    Second, my honest opinion is that you will not go to hell based on a decision to vote for Obama. I personally am not a supporter of Obama, but I recognize that is a political opinion, not a spiritual one.

    I will stand by my claim that Jesus did not die to run governments. He did not die in order to lead political revolutions. He died to save souls. If Christians really want to spread God’s will, they need to do so by sharing the good news of Jesus’ saving gospel, not by trying politically change national legislation. Don’t misunderstand, when legislation is up for vote and I can put in my two cents, I do. But those who claim to be followers of Jesus and then act like our vote is part of our Christian duty, I think have missed the boat. The New Testament never once talks about how to change national policy. It never once suggests we even try. God is not nearly so concerned with how His people would impact government, politics or national policy as He is with whether or not His children obey Him no matter who is in power.

    As I said in the sermon, there was only one governmental policy God ever remotely mentioned we should have concern about and that is whether or not the governing authorities allow us to lead peaceful, quiet lives, godly and dignified in every way. Then, He asked us to pray, not take the politics into our hands as if God wants to run our nation (cf. I Timothy 2:1-2).

    Jesus did not establish His church to impact national policy. He did not establish His church to run governments. He did not establish His church to try to have Christian nations. Sadly, I think the fact that we are in a democracy has caused too many Christians to lose sight of why God really established His church. The church is to be the pillar and support of His truth (cf. I Timothy 3:15). He established His church to spread His gospel. If more churches, preachers and Christians would simply get back to the Bible and let churches be what God intended, we would be a much better place.

    Okay, I guess I’ve rambled enough. However, I hope this has helped a little. And I would say the same thing to anyone who wants to support McCain but has been told by someone else who claims to be a Christian that they just don’t see how Christians can support Republicans because that party doesn’t have enough compassion for the poor.

    Have a great week.
    ELC

    Comment by edwincrozier | September 29, 2008

  11. Edwin,
    These are some excellent thoughts that definitely gave me pause in considering thoughts of this election season. I’ve never had a more difficult time deciding who to vote FOR because I’m so disappointed with both of the major candidates who were placed into their roles.

    I had been thinking about some similar things before you expressed them much better here. The most important conclusion that I’ve come to is to think about how great a number of souls would be added to our Lord’s kingdom if we would channel just a fraction of the fervor and zeal for our political candidates into our daily walk with a mind set on evangelizing the lost to know Jesus rather than Obama or McCain.

    Great work, brother, keep it up!

    Comment by Ben Hastings | October 22, 2008

  12. Absolutely, Ben. To paraphrase a scripture “Did McCain die for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Obama?”

    I’m not saying we can’t have political opinions. Just recognizing that our political opinions are just that, political. They are not coming from the Bible directly because God is not really concerned about how we vote but about how we live no matter who is leading the nation.

    Comment by edwincrozier | October 22, 2008

  13. I have been avoiding the political (and other discussions leading to heated arguments) on that other blogplace, but I was refreshed to happen across your response on Shane’s blog, and glad to read that you’ve posted these comments where a wider audience can find them. I am especially glad of your reminder that this is not necessarily a “Christian nation” in the sense that it is not run in politically in that Way. If it were, would we be any different from a radical Muslim who would like to convert the whole world, not just to his faith but to his a political system run by his understanding of faith? But it is what makes true Christ-following different, that we spread the word BY word and by behavior, not by mandate, as we were taught. Governmental power reeks of love of this world and its things, not having eyes heavenward. If our “old fashioned” Christian life and ideals are truly Light to this world, then we will not have to rule over them, they will come (or they will hide). In my experience, more folks are attracted to and converted by lives rather than a list of rules and regulations imposed by some overpowering leadership.

    Comment by LisaM | October 23, 2008

  14. Amen! LisaM

    Comment by edwincrozier | October 23, 2008

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  17. After reading the comments, sermon, etc., I must ask—You said Jesus came to establish the heavenly kingdom here on earth. So very true. You also say we are hear to spread the gospel. So very true also. You stated you base your vote on the issue of abortion. You don’t fail to mention that the Republicans were in control of the presidency and congress and they failed to make abortion illegal. You must also realize that our liberal judges have a lot to do with why Roe vs. Wade will never be overturned. As a minister, do you not feel it is your obligation to lead individuals in the direction to vote for the less of two evils? You know Obama is for every form of abortion. You know his voting record. Do you think GOD would want us to vote for an individual that is for killing the most innocent? Abortion is a huge issue. Without life you have nothing..I really believe you think you are “doing God’s will” by simply saying “spread the gospel” but you fail to mention what his gospel really is. The way we vote does impact our lives and to say it doesn’t matter how we vote is simply not true.. We know Christ didn’t die to establish a government, however, do you not believe he gave us free will to know right from wrong and what we allow to happen if we vote for evil is impacting all of us in a negative way? Do you fear offending your congregation? Do you talk of abortion, homosexuality, the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman? You do not need to be ugly when speaking on these matters, but how can a minister be passive if it is his job to teach? So many churches have become afraid to teach the truth. They are constantly talking “fluff” to please their members.

    Comment by someone | February 6, 2009


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